[teqc] GeoGenius

Gerry Creager N5JXS gerry.creager at tamu.edu
Thu Sep 2 21:22:01 MDT 2004


Er... My point was that the unwanted/unwarranted GeoGenius translation 
was at fault.

gerry

John Galvin wrote:
> Gerry,
>  
> That's all well and good to standardise on teqc, but for this case, 
> you're still going through an unwanted translation from Ashtec binary to 
> GeoGenius format.  Or rather the website offering the files in GeoGenius 
> format, have performed the unwanted translation.  Whether you run 
> GeoGenius to do a further translation to Rinex , or Lou modifies Teqc to 
> do it, the potential for damage is already past.
>  
> I'm sure that whomever is posting these GeoGenius files on that website 
> thinks that they're helping, by translating raw Ashtec binary to 
> GeoGenius.  Perhaps it would be easiest, just to ask them to use Teqc to 
> directly translate Ashtec binary to Rinex, or better yet, just post the 
> Ashtec binary, in the first place?
>  
> John Galvin
> 
> 
> */Gerry Creager N5JXS <gerry.creager at tamu.edu>/* wrote:
> 
>     I, for one, have tried to standardise on tecq for my translations. When
>     I use the vendor-de-jure translation tool, results can vary and this
>     leads to problems in quality control. So far, tecq has been pretty
>     consistent for my needs, and Lou responsive to requests.
> 
>     If we can use tecq to translate the GeoGenius files, we retain
>     consistency. If we can't, I guess someone's going to have to develop
>     another QC test.
> 
>     Gerry
> 
>     John Galvin wrote:
>      > Lou,
>      >
>      > I don't know what is all the fuss about the GeoGenius .OBS files,
>     because
>      > GeoGenius has the capability to export Rinex in both standard and
>     compressed
>      > forms. That is all not to mention, importing Rinex and several
>     different
>      > binary formats.
>      >
>      > John Galvin
>      >
>      >
>      >>-----Original Message-----
>      >>From: teqc-bounces at ls.unavco.org
>      >>[mailto:teqc-bounces at ls.unavco.org] On Behalf Of Lou Estey
>      >>Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 6:45 AM
>      >>To: teqc support
>      >>Subject: Re: [teqc] GeoGenius
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>hi Sam,
>      >>
>      >>Are the Terrasat .OBS files at http://www.gps-survey.com
>      >>in GeoTracer format?
>      >>
>      >>--lou
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>>Lou,
>      >>>
>      >>>Recently, Herbert gave me a GeoTracer output format
>      >>
>      >>description. This
>      >>
>      >>>might help.
>      >>>
>      >>>Sam
>      >>>
>      >>>At 03:51 PM 9/1/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>>Hi Lou,
>      >>>>GeoGenius is a software developed by Dr. Herbert Landau,
>      >>
>      >>his company
>      >>
>      >>>>Terrasat ist located in Germany:
>      >>>>
>      >>>>Trimble Terrasat GmbH
>      >>>>+49 8102 74330
>      >>>>Haringstr. 19
>      >>>>85635 Höhenkirchen-Siegertsbrunn (nearby Munich)
>      >>>>
>      >>>>
>      >>>>"Lou Estey" schrieb:
>      >>>>
>      >>>>>hi Andrew,
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>>I was under the impression that you knew everything!
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>Ha! Hardly!
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>>Seems to be what is logged by Spectra Precision Terrasat
>      >>>>>>software--not receiver specific. Terrasat is a division of
>      >>>>>>Spectra Precision and developed VRS. Trimble bought Spectra
>      >>>>>>Precision. The software lives on...
>      >>>>>>
>      >>>>>>If you're really curi ous, try:
>      >>>>>>
>      >>>>>>http://www.gps-survey.com --> File Download -->
>      >>
>      >>Observations -->
>      >>
>      >>>>>>etc
>      >>>>>>
>      >>>>>>This site used to have raw Ashtech, but now it's Ashtech in
>      >>>>>>Terrasat clothing. Not a huge deal, as there is rinex, but the
>      >>>>>>rinex is pretty chopped up.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>The first hour (I guess) for 31 Aug:
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>-rw-r--r-- 1 lou dmg 3780 Sep 1 07:01 WCM1244A.04a
>      >>>>>-rw-r--r-- 1 lou dmg 24214 Sep 1 07:02 WCM1244A.04n
>      >>>>>-rw-r--r-- 1 lou dmg 409900 Sep 1 07:03 WCM1244A.OBS
>      >>>>>[1020] file W*
>      >>>>>WCM1244A.04a: ascii text
>      >>>>>WCM1244A.04n: ascii text
>      >>>>>WCM1244A.OBS: data
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>WCM1244A.04n is obviously a pretty normal RINEX nav file.
>      >>>>>WCM1244A.04a appears to be some sort of stat matrix for
>      >>
>      >>the GPS SVs
>      >>
>      >>>>>(PRN 1-31), and WCM1244A.OBS must be the observations. The first
>      >>>>>few lines of an octal dump are interesting since there is some
>      >>>>>ASCII:
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>[1025] od -c W*.OBS | more
>      >>>>>0000000 t e r r a S a t 260 001 001 0
>      >>
>      >>A S H T
>      >>
>      >>>>>0000020 E C H Z - X I I 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
>      >>>>>0000040 U N K N O W N 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>      >>>>>0000060 0 0 0 0 6 J 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 f 0
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>So, given your intro, it's verified this is "terraSat"
>      >>
>      >>software and
>      >>
>      >>>>>dat a from an Ashtech Z-12. But as to what is being
>      >>
>      >>bundled up and
>      >>
>      >>>>>how, I
>      >>>>
>      >>>>have
>      >>>>
>      >>>>>no idea. (For grins I tried a teqc metadata extraction
>      >>
>      >>using `-ash
>      >>
>      >>>>>s` and `-ash r` and got nothing.)
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>I did some Googling and found that GeoGenius refers to a software
>      >>>>
>      >>>>package
>      >>>>
>      >>>>>of Spectra Precision -- "the ultimate GPS processing toolset" one
>      >>>>>site called it.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>So what we have here is some software package (Terrasat?
>      >>
>      >>GeoGenius?)
>      >>
>      >>>>>which is part of Spectra Precision, now owned by Trimble, which
>      >>>>>slurps up data from any receiver (e.g. Ashtec h Z-12) and
>      >>
>      >>appears to
>      >>
>      >>>>>spit out the data into some other format, right?
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>Anybody have any insights?
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>--lou
>      >>>>>
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